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Feral:

--- Quote from: Mogul on Thu, Jul 06, 2006, 05:45 ---
Out of reasons disclosed from me, these remarkable findings were not sufficiently covered by the international straight press.  =))

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Odd that this should come up. A few years ago there was posted on another gay message board a happy little news story about a similar survey. A major German condom manufacturer had found the sales of their various sizes of condoms to be...curious. So they commissioned a study to determine the range of penis sizes. As it happened, they found that an inordinate number of men buy condoms that are not at all properly sized for effective use.

Well anyway, the average size mentioned in the news article was met with great skepticism by the gay men reading the board. While this figure was not unreasonable, they found it was by no means common enough in "the wild" to call it an average.

In a similar vein, a female friend of mine from university (oh, so very long ago) expressed an interest in the small pornography collection my roommate and I had accumulated. She was shocked. "Wherever do you guys find such large...?" In truth, neither of us knew what to say. The gentlemen in the images were fairly ordinary.

It is perhaps best for the str8 boys' dignity if this finding should remain our little secret.

Mogul:
I have searched at PubMeds for further articles by Mr. Bogaert, a fine list of articles was delivered, among them this funny abstract:

"1: Arch Sex Behav. 1999 Jun;28(3):213-21.

The relation between sexual orientation and penile size.

Bogaert AF, Hershberger S.

Brock University, St. Catharines, Canada. tbogaert@spartan.ac.brocku.ca

The relation between sexual orientation and penile dimensions in a large sample of men was studied. Subjects were 5122 men interviewed by the Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction from 1938 to 1963. They were dichotomously classified as either homosexual (n = 935) or heterosexual (n = 4187). Penile dimensions were assessed using five measures of penile length and circumference from Kinsey's original protocol. On all five measures, homosexual men reported larger penises than did heterosexual men. Explanations for these differences are discussed, including the possibility that these findings provide additional evidence that variations in prenatal hormonal levels (or other biological mechanisms affecting reproductive structures) affect sexual orientation development."

Out of reasons disclosed from me, these remarkable findings were not sufficiently covered by the international straight press.  =))

Mogul:
The links to the articles:


* Anthony F. Bogaert: Biological versus nonbiological older brothers and men’s sexual orientation
PNAS published June 28, 2006, 10.1073/pnas.0511152103
......Biological versus nonbiological older brothers and mens sexual orientation Anthony...orientation in men is the number of older brothers (fraternal birth order). The mechanism...were studied. Only biological older brothers, and not any other sibling characteristic......
* COMMENTARIES:David A. Puts, Cynthia L. Jordan, and S. Marc Breedlove: O brother, where art thou? The fraternal birth-order effect on male sexual orientation
PNAS published June 30, 2006, 10.1073/pnas.0604102103
......mother carried, not the presence of older brothers while growing up, that makes some...orientation of females. So it is only older brothers af-fecting younger brothers. This...How many men are gay because of older brothers? One estimate is that ap-proximately......

Feral:
I am told that the article's title will be "Biological versus nonbiological older brothers and men's sexual orientation."

Mogul:
New findings strengthen the suggestion that sexual orientation is determined during the prenatal development. Apparently, repeating pregnancies predispose mothers to bear more gay sons.


--- Quote ---Adding to the theory that homosexuality may be hardwired and not the product of environmental factors, new research again confirms that the more older brothers a male has, the more likely he is to be gay.

Researchers have known for years that a man's likelihood of being gay rises with the number of older biological brothers. But the new study found that the so-called "fraternal birth order effect" persists even if gay men were raised away from their biological families.

Study author Anthony F. Bogaert said the findings add to a growing body of evidence that links homosexuality to nature, not nurture.

"The research suggests that the development of sexual orientation is influenced before birth," said Bogaert, a professor of community health sciences at Brock University in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada.

Bogaert and a colleague first reported the older-brother effect a decade ago. According to Bogaert, men with no older brothers have about a 2 percent to 3 percent chance of being gay. If they have three or four older brothers, the rate goes up to about 5 percent.
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The article will appear in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, so far I was not able to determine the exact citation informations.

The Council for Responsible Genetics offers some additional informations in its Position Paper by The Council for Responsible Genetics.

Well, we will see whether our Ex-Gay "friends" will shift their focus from juvenile gays to unborn ones - and advise multiple mothers pregnant with a boy to consider a preventive "corrective medication", maybe available in the next convenience store?

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