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Re: Two scenarios of gay political independence
« Reply #3 on: Sat, Jun 03, 2006, 22:23 »

A gay state, who would pick out only those LGBT refugees who appear "ideologically pure" will be not worth of its name.

It is not a matter of ideology,but of sexual orientation and sometimes of identity and condition laced with egoistic interest.What is the sex ratio of the group of regulars of this forum ? The opposite sex is either absent or in minority here,and by the fact of no exclusion from your part.I am trying not to displease the "G" element of the LGBT political equation because,to tell you frankly,it is the only one I trust with respect to a project of gay self-determination in a geopolitical form.The others,I simply do not trust.They cannot participate in any undertaking nor give any assurances which would exceed their heterosexual interests or commitments.A gay independentist movement,as a gay future State,have no obligation to protect or represent hethro interests or privileges.The protection of such interests and privileges is the sole responsibility of hethro governments and States.

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Re: Two scenarios of gay political independence
« Reply #2 on: Sat, Jun 03, 2006, 21:56 »

Scenario 3: We gather as many gays and lesbians under our flag as possible, allow the willing transgenders and bisexuals to participate and do the best to make us all as happy as possible. Those who will see their interests not served by emigration to a gay administrated territory, might participate in national unification in Diaspora, being involved and welcome where they naturally belong to. Unity and inclusion is our devise, not fragmentation and exclusion! The meaning of gay nationalism is not as much about the separation from "abhorrent heterosexuals", as it is about the establishment of a national unity of our people - with a gay state being only a part of the entire construction called nation. A gay state, who would pick out only those LGBT refugees who appear "ideologically pure" will be not worth of its name.
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right!" Salvor Hardin

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Two scenarios of gay political independence
« Reply #1 on: Sat, Jun 03, 2006, 03:35 »


Scenario 1:  We completely secede from the opposite sex.In which case,we may include members from non-gay sexual minorities,such as the improperly called bisexuals.Their presence in an environment where only one sex is represented will be without negative consequence for our interest or political independence.They won`t be in a position to reconstitute,by the sheer weight of their own hethro demographic dynamics,another hethro regime and State.The improperly called bisexuals - actually hethro dissidents more than gay opponents - might of course not want to participate in such a scenario.Or live under such conditions.

Scenario 2: We include both sexes in absolute conditions of equality.But we exclude all members from non-gay sexual minorities.The opposite sex might not accept such a deal,so different from the life of farniente it carries on under the hethro regime.We might thus have a sex ratio very different from the one of an hethro society.The opposite sex will be in minority.Or it will be absent,like in Scenario 1.

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