VictorI find your comment on the gay kingdom web page facinating, I have printed it out bellow, you of all people are one of the trouble makers, you have had legal threats made against you by HIM Dale and had to withdraw your marks, you have had legal threats made against you by members of this group, so why dont you practise what you preach!
The Gay Kingdom is going just fine in Australia and is moving forward in leaps and bounds they have a territory, a Sovereign and a government it clearly is not as you put it and I quote "A one man show of Mr Anderson" is there a hint of jelousy there? the Aussies seem to be doing something and just because you are not involved does not mean you have to make such negative comments towards this group.
Sally
Steff,
you rise a topic which probably many wanted to stir but never dared.
The very idea of a queer nation is much older than is generally
believed, and there were always less or more active phases in the
development of this idea. There are many conceptions existing: from "I
hate straights" to "Gay Parallel Republic" and of course the one-man
show of Mr. Anderson. Search for "Queer nationalism" on Google and you
will certainly find some interesting articles.
Well, to answer your question - I must tell you, that most actors in
the gay nationalism movement seem somewhat uncertain about what to do
next now. You see, the idea is that much high-flown that most people
are very euphoric in the first days/weeks, but they let their support
drop when some real things have to be done - e.g. signing of official
documents for registration, paying membership dues or simply
participating in some tiresome debates. Whenever something real must
be done, we loose faith and hide in corners, waiting for somebody else
making the next step.
Most of us seem unable to overcome past differences and are trapped in
our ego-centrism. Even if history has proved that our opponents behold
right, we cannot make a step towards them and acknowledge our
misjudgment. It's not the "us against them" matter, fellows: it's
about the ability to accept differences of political views. If we
could find a way to communicate to eachother directly and not through
our lawyers, it would be a small, but important progress.
However, this movement is certainly not dead. Whereas I suppose that
the remains of Kingdom's government are also planning some re-
organization, it's not the only place in the world to discuss the gay
self-determination. You might find it interesting to peer into the
"Gay Homeland" discussion group as well:
http://forum.gayhomeland.orgThere we are discussing some aspects of gay nationalism as such, now
independently from the republican/monarchist mindstate. The forum is
open to anybody intersted in the gay life and is not strictly bound to
only republican supporters.
I hope that this message will be not understood as an unfriendly
attempt to draw subscribers of this group into our own forum. It's
just a hand, stretched out to this group and all actively interested
in the discussion, inclusively the moderators/government.
We must recognize that all previous efforts obviously HAVE failed and
we are in need of a serious discussion before we start a next try.
What do we want to achieve at the long-term, what can we achieve
within the next few years? It obviously does NOT suffice to "declare
independency" and choose an island on the map to be regarded as our
property.
Come back to Earth, buddies, leave the sulling corner and let's talk
about the enterprise like grown-ups.
Viktor Zimmermann